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My main issue with these hard modes is having to use fire resist gear. I don't want to have good defenses, I want to do big damage.

Dude I love your content! How do I get that sweet rogue ui thing showing energy, combo points, and timers for your slice and dice, deadly poison etc

What server are you playing on? I noticed you switched from horde to alliance too.

agreed 100% the cozy classic feeling comes from gear progress with time as well as actually being good at what your doing.

Every group of friends has people that want different things. Some want to parse, others want to chill, others even could not care less. When there's multiple difficulty levels, this all gets thrown into whack and everyone's experience suffers. Some people want to do hard modes, others don't. So your raid is now at odds with one another. Friends are people that like each other, not necessarily people that like playing the game the same way. Blizzard, by adding difficulty modes, is fracturing groups of people that would otherwise just play together and accept the minor inconveniences that poses.

I'm tired boss. They are setting rogues up for being off the charts OP. Like wtf happened to the "hybrid tax" others have to deal with? Rogues now bring mandatory utility, buffed across the board, will keep scaling good, amazing set bonuses and items that specifically give them some insane bonuses. Meanwhile shadow priest can't be allowed to do good damage in pve because they can do some off-healing and return some mana. So dumb.

No one is compelled to do them if they don't want to be compelled, show some self-control if you don't enjoy them.

So alchemist bout to be rich AF. Err-body goan buy Fye Rezistorz PoahShinz like some nerdlettos and ima come up in yuh raid without a single Lickser cuz i dont be giv'zin no Fuxxies

No nug energy to see energy ticks?

I like the idea of the hard modes having more fire damage AND that the lower modes loot would include modifiers to gear (to give fire resist) in place of some gear. You collect enough fire resist and you can move up to the higher levels that offer more/only gear.

I really hate when people just brush off others' concerns by saying "if you dont want to do it, just dont do it, who cares if you fall behind?" and just assign their lack of caring with their casual method of play to all players, disregarding those who WANT to play ahead of the curve or at least not fall behind in player power because thats what they enjoy,. Things like this ruin it for people who dont want to spend all this extra time and effort but are usually strong players who stay up to date with power levels, this makes it so you CANT play the way you want to play. Casuals always have their way to play when they dont care as much about progression, but the people who DO care get screwed. Its the same with the biweekly lockouts (before they just announced MC is going to be weekly) that wouldve really made it hard to hit every lockout every week without getting burnt out FAST, and you play with multiple guilds on different characters? NOT ANYMORE YOU DONT. That being said I hope they roll back this difficulty setting or just make no rewards come from it.

MC 1 is going to be so easy that you can 10man. Ultimately it is dumb.

i don't give a shit if bad players are left behind or feel bad that they can't do the highest level of content. get good or sit in org crying. there's already pretty low incentive to do hard mode of mc, more loot is pretty meh seeing as we can comfortably clear naxx in the gear we have on now. i don't WANT everyone to be on the same playing field. When did we just enter this era of participation trophies? Didnt we start hating retail because of welfare epics?

Big disagree, giving people more options to play how they want is always a plus to me. Its also good progression & something to look forward to reaching as a goal. Extra loot doesn't hurt anybody, we'll all still reach the same ilvl eventually.

Usually I agree with you but not with this. I think hard modes with more loot and trinkets, mounts, titles etc. is a good thing. ST was way to easy so after a few rund several people in my guild just lost interest in the game since it wasn't challenging.

I agree with that.

As someone who have been advocating for harder raids in SoD, honestly just make it give nothing except the challenge. I don't want it for extra loot, I want it because it is more fun to me. Now you can opt out and it literally won't affect you, but people who would like to take on the challenge can do it.

Eh i disagree. im a casual raider myself and i believe harder difficulty should yield better reward, but not exclusive rewards. they are simply increasing the rarer item drops if u go harder, thats fine.

Hard agree. Blizzard went back on their twice weekly raid lockout because they acknowledged that the playerbase would feel almost obligated to raid every reset to get the best chance at loot as possible. Well, the higher raid difficulties dropping more loot comes with the same problem of obligation, right? It does seem a bit weird to change one but not the other, until you realise that they likely didn't change the lockout to appeal to casuals, but instead to appeal to those that raid in Cataclysm aswell. They've been catering to the "Cataclysm Waiting Room" crowd since SoD's release in the last phase of Wrath, with it's faster levelling, future expansion abilities, smaller raid sizes, and now P4 dungeon currency and different raid difficulties. Blizzard's desire to make SoD appeal to the Cataclysm crowd has arguably been bad for SoD's community, since as soon as Cataclysm launched and SoD P3 was extended because of it, there was a huge drop-off, and many guilds fell apart. Blizzard is now reigniting SoD and wants these people to raid in both games for their metrics, and a twice weekly lockout might mean that Cataclysm players just don't bother with SoD because they know they can't keep up and remain competitive. At this point, they need SoD to appeal to the Cataclysm crowd, because it hardly appeals to the Classic one. It's unfortunate.

Level 2 should give the Tabard of Flame from tcg for clearing and Level 3 should give some kind of fire mount so its something people will still work towards and do but don't feel forced to do them more than once.

Just bragging rights would be enough and something to show for it, like a mount or tabard or something. You wouldn't have to do it, but if MC feels easy, you can do it and prolong its lifespan. Someone needs that mageblade still during BWL, no prob, go in with your better gear, but make it harder to get that thingy they want to showoff with.

A lot of players that say they want hard modes just want to gatekeep content from bad players to make themselves feel better. Give the hard modes no extra rewards and see exactly how many people really want this content. Edit; and by that I mean, the content should be reason enough to play it. You shouldn't need a loot incentive.

Greatly disagree with you. But that's okay :)

Yay I can get my gear faster and stop playing sooner. SOD HYPE! SOD HYPE

this is 100% correct, the devs are taking an already dwindling raid population from an exhausting phase 3 and willingly breaking into 3 at the start of level 60 content. they need to change this before it goes live or sod will be legitimately be done before we even see BWL.

Nah giving people the choice to more fit the way you play the game to their wants is good. SoD was always about this since p1 or did we complain about BFD getting what is effectively a hardmode aswell? I don’t want to do mc for 100000000000 time in the same way when the whole idea behind SoD is change.

Even if you put super useless item behind Heat 3 people will feel fomo.

I agree, I think the increase in difficulties will only separate the community.

Do we know yet if harder: more mechanics or more FR reqs or all tbc currently?

If you don't want to do raids with increased difficulty then don't do them, it's really that simple. If you want to actually challenge yourself and be rewarded for achieving more than the normal face roll raid then turn that heat all the way up! Era exists so play that because SoD is for trying new and different things and is a precursor for Classic+.

i personally think the biggest problem in wow is world buffs, i just personally dont find them particularly fun to aquire and feel like they dont add much to raiding. They make raiding too easy when uhave them all, but too hard when u dont have them for many ppl

Literally just go play retail at this point

i actually would really love if it meant it required fire res gear then i'd be getting people in my pugs who arent trying to fucking parse and grief the raid and i could just focus on clearing content with people who actually like raiding

Theres a huge shitter playerbase still wipeing in st after 3 months and the devs really think those people are going to experience naxx😂 season of casuals

The problem is there isent exclusive loot😂 season of casuals

I completely agree with you and I raid HM cata and recently retail. When I play classic I just want to chill with my dad friends. The content isn’t even going to be very hard but the point of classic is to be relaxing. The people clamoring for it to be a challenge will more than likely not even find it challenging and only the boomers and new players will struggle and then they will stop playing and then you have a dead game again. Gotta see the bigger picture here

I think this is going to be good in the long run. Being able to take new characters into a Heat 3 guild run during late P4 or P5 could be a great way to keep MC relevant. But I do agree that it fractures the player base early on. People won’t be looking for a MC run, they’ll be looking for a MC 1, 2 or 3.

couldnt agree more Simon i hope that this "hard mode" is only for MC and doesnt happen with the future raids, simply because MC was always a cake walk, and they leave it at that

Average guilds will lose their better players to other guilds, if they can‘t do the highest difficulty and by not doing the highest difficulty, they won‘t get better players

Hard modes shouldn't be a thing. The player base will have to do them other wise they miss out. /s I don't see how people can be against 2 lockouts but not hard modes.

exatly sod should be as easy as possible.

I see alot of comments saying they dont want "harder" molten core but there are also a large majority of players who have raided Molten core 100's of times and want a challenge. I think adding these types of increased difficulties is a great thing for a SEASONAL server - ya know.. the whole point of season of DISCOVERY?... Why should blizzard continually re-do molten core without any additional challenges/mechanics? I can almost guarantee after week 3-4 the heat level 3 won't be an issue for MOST guilds and it will be casually ran by pugs eventually once everyone gets more gear. Heat level 3 on release will be very tough without a fully prepared, fully fire resistant raid team. But weeks into the patch, every raid group will be clearing Heat level 3 and reaping the rewards of extra loot, and this whole conversation will be meaningless

loved your video and agree with everything you said. i don't like the 144p quality lol

Im not agree. I really cant be arsed to farm same unchallenging MC again for 3001st run lifetime... Especially twice a week, only incursions could be more depressing. Also harder MC bosses in season of mastery for same vendorstrike loot didnt feel good either

I see simonize video, I thumbs up and press subscribe, as should you

If you played season of mastery, i hope they are doing what they did for AQ40... Harder difficulty unlocks at certain rep points, so only after your group has done the raid a few times and scaled up their gear. And the difficulties were not crazy and you could turn them up/down whenever you wanted by going back to the selector.

At first I was excited to hear about different difficulties of MC, but hearing this take I think I agree with what you're saying, it's as you mentioned it is kinda lame having to wear resist gear and having smaller numbers on the screen, we have increased amount of loot rewards, but being tied down to wearing fire resist gear instead of the new gear to clear it doesn't sound right

good take amigo 🔒

Great video, I hope the devs are watching!

Cosmetic or mounts would carry more prestige and thus people would push to do that content. More loot of the same quality yes does have the same effect to an extent but I think most players will be content to drop difficulty